In 2010 the Conservative government introduced a crime bill which would kill the so-called faint hope clause that allows some people serving life sentences to apply for parole after 15 years (instead of the usual 25 common for first-degree murder and other life sentence convictions). Opponents of the crime bill argue that extended prison sentences are cruel and will cost the government tens of millions of dollars per year.Proponents argue that 15 years is too short of a prison term for people serving life sentences.
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@9F7JWQS2yrs2Y
If it’s proven they’ve made changes to themselves, unless theyre a multiple time offender with little to chance of change
@9VPNGYR6mos6MO
Maybe depends on the reason for the murder and if over the past 15 years they show remorse or improvement
Depends on why crime was committed and what sate of living the person was in while committing the crime.
@9JJC4PH1yr1Y
we should abolish the prison industrial complex and process harm through transformative and restorative justice
All depends weather it was done on purpose or by accident
@9F9CFKW2yrs2Y
If it was proves self defense yes
No, but we should still provide more rehab programs for prisoners
@9BW2NCY2yrs2Y
It depends on why they did what they did, if it was out of self-defence or because they were being abused by the people who they killed of course. Even if it was because of other reasons they should offer good rehabilitation programs and go psych evaluations on them to make sure they're okay mentally..
@96GLR2B3yrs3Y
Yes, and we should work towards abolishing the prison system entirely.
Maybe,but give them a chance with a actual rehabilitation program.
@9673VLG3yrs3Y
Yes, but not without a strict and thorough psychological evaluation and provide more rehabilitation programs
We should keep people responsible but treat them better then prisons do
@9644S3YConservative3yrs3Y
@963PCGR3yrs3Y
yes, but depends on circumstance of the murder.
@95BS7H63yrs3Y
Yes, provided psychological evaluation and continued engagement in rehabilitative services to assess risk and mitigated risks for reoffending post release.
they should not be let out for murder
@947RZL33yrs3Y
Provided psychological evaluation and proper rehabilitation
It depends on the reason
@93FV8Y53yrs3Y
It depends on why they killed
@926RKBNNew Democratic3yrs3Y
Yes but they should be under psychological review along with rehabilitation programs
@8ZFWNWG3yrs3Y
No, reinstate death penalty for premeditated and/or pointless murder.
@8ZCNVDN3yrs3Y
It depends what the murder entails
This is a complicated issue, but if someone killed me by accident or on purpose I would hope that this person could sent to a place where they can learn to cooperate with people and learn to control their rage, punishment only leads to rebellion, people need to be treated with respect when being rehabilitated not imprisoned
@8YQGHTTNew Democratic3yrs3Y
Depends on what the motive was
@8Y8LP963yrs3Y
There should be restorative justice measures in place especially for Indigenous offenders, and a hearing should be available if the offender has followed Indigenous restorative justice protocols for a majority of their sentence.
@8XX9M3F3yrs3Y
Depends on alot of factors
@8XLW4DH3yrs3Y
No, but still provide more rehabilitation programs for prisoners
@8X7SV5V3yrs3Y
Yes, given strict psychological evaluation showing they are no longer a threat, and we should provide more rehabilitation programs for prisoners
@8W8J43S4yrs4Y
Depends on why and how the person was killed
No, unless the murderer was acting as self defense in an abusive home or situation and can prove the police didn't provide help for their safety when asked.
@8VZHMPM4yrs4Y
i think the prisoner should serve life with posbility of parole after 20 or 18 years
@8VYZLVY4yrs4Y
It is difficult to make a choice without knowing the context of the case. In some cases I am pro-death penalty however, there are some people that have severe undiagnosed mental disorders. With the right help, that person can be rehabilitated and integrated back into society. However, when it is a person that kills for the spite of it, then yes they should not have that chance to go back into society as they are to dangers.
@8VXZZ6R4yrs4Y
No, they should have to wait longer for a parole hearing.
@8VWLZM64yrs4Y
Depends on the situation, why they murdered someone etc
@8VSS6S54yrs4Y
This is too complex for a yes no short answer format. Con law and human rights and a carcerial system etc
@8VRRWV24yrs4Y
Provide rehabilitation programs and psychological evaluation.
@8VLQQY34yrs4Y
It depends on the specific scenario
@8VLFK96New Democratic4yrs4Y
Our entire prison system needs to be re-worked.
@8VL8TVS4yrs4Y
It depends why they committed the crime
Depending on the circumstance,
I believe it depends upon the situation, why the murder was committed and what has the individual done since/ are they a threat.
@8VC3SZ34yrs4Y
No but more rehabilitation and psychological supports need to be in place.
@8VBRM9C4yrs4Y
Yes, but a hearing should be done if there is new evidence proving their innocence
@8V8FJD44yrs4Y
It would depend heavily on the circumstance of the murder. If it was self defense, parole should be available immediately
@8V82NCG4yrs4Y
It depends why they did it and if it was a crime of passion
@8V53PTT4yrs4Y
Yes and as Long as they can pass a strict physiological evaluation that shows they are no longer if actually society as well as it was not a offence committed on a minor
@8TYPJ3B4yrs4Y
They should be eligible for parole after 25 years for murder and heinous crimes so long as they have shown good behavior and have had a psych evaluation that they are no longer a threat to society
@8TX3YTBNew Democratic4yrs4Y
Yes, depending on the reason behind their murder.
@8TWZKLY4yrs4Y
No. A life sentence should mean exactly that...life.
Yes and abolish the prison system.
@8TKFPRH4yrs4Y
Yes, and we should be working towards the abolition of prisons and carceral infrastructures by heavily investing in rehabilitation programs, models of restorative justice and community accountability, social services, and psychiatric health care.
it depends on the circumstance
@8T8VK3K4yrs4Y
Depends on the story of the crime; was it a reasonable kill like Gypsy Rose?
@8T56SGM4yrs4Y
Yes, following a psychological evaluation, and we should be focusing on rehabilitation
@8SYX63G4yrs4Y
Yes, after completing a thorough psychological evaluation to show they are no longer a threat to society and there should be more rehabilitation programs for prisoners
@8SY9V6V4yrs4Y
yes, but depending on the circumstance
@8SJ3CVL4yrs4Y
I need to do more research on this topic
@8SD4L9LNew Democratic4yrs4Y
Yes, but depending on how cruel the crime is.
Maybe if you are able to prove they are mentally stable enough to make sure they will not go on a killing spree after they are let out
@8RJ3DYC4yrs4Y
Psych evaluation plus rehabilitation program
@8RG6SG34yrs4Y
Depends on the violence of the crime and how well they have rebilitated themselves.
@8QVLLGTNew Democratic4yrs4Y
No, unless there is reasonable doubt that they commuted the crime in the first place.
@8QM949B4yrs4Y
Depends on their situation.
@8QLJMM24yrs4Y
It depends on the situation if it was done to protect someone else or themselves, they should get psychological treatment. If it was done just because, they should be sent straight to prison.
@8QL4WLD4yrs4Y
No because once they leave it'll be so hard to start a life. But everyone derives a second chance
@8Q8KRNN4yrs4Y
if the case is worse then just the murder like did it for there own pleasure then they should not be allowed to have a parole hearing. if the case is that something happened to them say got raped for an instanced and they murder the person who did it for many years i would say yes to parole.
@8Q78H854yrs4Y
Yes, but there should be many psychological evaluation/rehabilitation hurdles to jump through in order to get that parole.
@8PVDV2GNew Democratic4yrs4Y
No, but we should put in more rehabilitation programs and programs/systems to prevent this
Yes, provided a strict psychological evaluation that shows they are no longer a threat to society and we should provide more rehabilitation programs for prisoners and
@8PPY29H4yrs4Y
Maybe. Locking someone up in prison won’t fix anything. It’d probably make things worse. If they completely changed prisons then maybe
@8PPM5D3New Democratic4yrs4Y
No, but with psychological treatment and rehabilitation
@8PK936W4yrs4Y
Depending on the crime. If the individual has killed several people they should not. Everyone else should be case by case, and rehabilitation is very important.
@8PCRGDB4yrs4Y
It depends on how brutal the murder is, however rapists should be given the death sentance.
@8P79JNN4yrs4Y
Yes if they look at the effect on the family
@8NGM3JW4yrs4Y
Yes, but depends on the physiological condition of the offender
@8KJC7RM4yrs4Y
Only if it was in self defence. A father who murders husband child is not self defence.
@8K7FG7T4yrs4Y
They should go to court after 20 years to see if they can go on parole instead of jail
@8J9J8NZ4yrs4Y
@8J84QVQ4yrs4Y
If there is case of wrongful conviction
@8H6N2C25yrs5Y
Yes, but it should be 30 years, psychological evaluation
@8GLQW5S5yrs5Y
it depends on why they committed the murder
@8FNZ34N5yrs5Y
rehabilitation and education during sentence and no chance for parole, also clearing of psychological state and long, strict probation
I believe they should serve their full sentence and they shouldn’t have an option to get out of prison. Murders should stay in prison and they don’t deserve to be out in the normal world
@8D8N7PL5yrs5Y
@9C8YJM32yrs2Y
I think when it comes to the specific situation of the prisoner, like if they were abused for years or had to kill out of self-defence then yes and provide rehabilitation for them. There should be rehabilitation for all prisoners of lower crime though.
@9C8BR8P2yrs2Y
I think it ultimately depends on the convict. Anyone receiving a life sentence should serve their life sentence but I think everything else needs an evaluation before allowing parole
@9C2JMT92yrs2Y
Needs to be treated on a case by case basis
@9BZDPXN2yrs2Y
yes, if the murder can be seen as justified by multiple people.
@9BF78R72yrs2Y
The eligibility should exist to give inscentive to rehabilitate, but a judge should gatekeep the decision, and a committee should evaluate case by case.
Depends on the stances of First degree Murder, A Fatal car accident is considered first Degree Murder
@977RWL2New Democratic2yrs2Y
Dependant on severity of murder and the state of the prisoner
@96TXPDJ2yrs2Y
No, depends on the crime but for some after 30 years yes
@969Y6MJ3yrs3Y
Case by case basis (ie if they were very young at the time) & greatly increase funding for rehabilitation
@92W6DBZConservative3yrs3Y
If it was in self-defense, then they can be eligible for parole.
@8YZY2463yrs3Y
it’s ok if you kill someone in self defence
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