In 2010 the Conservative government introduced a crime bill which would kill the so-called faint hope clause that allows some people serving life sentences to apply for parole after 15 years (instead of the usual 25 common for first-degree murder and other life sentence convictions). Opponents of the crime bill argue that extended prison sentences are cruel and will cost the government tens of millions of dollars per year.Proponents argue that 15 years is too short of a prison term for people serving life sentences.
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@4P5TBKJ4yrs4Y
There are too many instances where poor, uneducated, lose when having a bad lawyer appointed to them. Also bad 'expert' witness testimony, poor police investigation, many mitigating circumstances have proven lately [cops lying in court]. Life is precious, to take one is a tragedy, to take two and be wrong has led to a shrug of the shoulders from authority. Let the majority decide.
@5393P4V4yrs4Y
Prisoners are human too. A society that run charties for animal welfare should do treat a human with compassion.
@584DVFT4yrs4Y
Reinstate forced labor so they at least offset the cost of internment to the taxpayer.
@4XK7BB24yrs4Y
perhaps, but ending jails is a must. it is inhumane. these people need mental health help, not physical and mental torture. even if they are insane and need to be strapped down 24/7, jail conditions are medieval and horrible.
@98WHVMZConservative2yrs2Y
They should go to fortnite battle match and one who wins gets to leave jail.
@B2STF4QConservative1mo1MO
hmmm this is a very cool and fun topic
@B2STBFV1mo1MO
yes I think this would be amazing In the realm of corrections and rehabilitation, traditional methods have long been the norm. However, as society evolves and the world undergoes continuous change, so too should our approaches to rehabilitation. One intriguing and unconventional proposal is to hold a Fortnite battle match, where prisoners compete in a virtual arena, and the victor earns the opportunity to leave jail. This radical idea might seem far-fetched, yet it offers a unique way to address rehabilitation, promote skill development, and incentivize good behavior.
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@B2STF2NConservative1mo1MO
this is why I quit to many sweats
@B2STF4QConservative1mo1MO
I think this would be very great since Fortnite is a great game and its very helpful in real life situations
@B2STF2NConservative1mo1MO
I much agree to your statement you have some stunning points and I will be agreeing with your vote because I also think that Fortnite is very helpful in real life because if you were to get mugged on the street you could full box and double pump the robber for the vic Roy
@B2STF2NConservative1mo1MO
calc is short for calculator I'm just using slang guys
@4RHKNK84yrs4Y
No. I think the entire parole system needs to be looked at. Sentences are too lenient and criminals are released too soon. Parole should be considered only for exceptionally well adjusted and productive inmates not people given life sentences. Life sentences should be for life, you die in prison.
@57LPWS94yrs4Y
no, life is life. Bring back public trials and corporal punishment and watch the crime rate drop!
@54B7FZY4yrs4Y
yes BUT death penalty should be brought back for heinous crimes even if under influence of a substance. Mental illness should not ever be an excuse in these crimes.
@4X9MSY34yrs4Y
prison systems don't help our community we shouldn't try to forget the problem and lock humans away, but rather enforce rehabilitation programs not "correctional" systems
@4P2GF3W4yrs4Y
Life is hard. People make mistakes, forgive
@9F7JWQS1yr1Y
If it’s proven they’ve made changes to themselves, unless theyre a multiple time offender with little to chance of change
@9DYV2PR2yrs2Y
I don't have an idea about this.
@9CBTBW32yrs2Y
Yes, individual cases should at minimum be reviewed but under careful scrutiny and with the knowledge that their release and potential to commit crime again is now the responsibility of those who released the criminal.
@98YDFDC2yrs2Y
Yes, we should provide more rehabilitation programs for prisoners and provide a strict psychological evaluation that shows they are no longer a threat to society.
@938Q3V53yrs3Y
depends why they murdered the person
@8VCR55S4yrs4Y
depends on the reason for killing
@8SCBVPC4yrs4Y
Depending on the reason for the murder.
@8S7DRZV4yrs4Y
yes, depending on what they did
@8NT8LSD4yrs4Y
@B3GSJ8Q1wk1W
i feel like if there is 1 count of first degree murderer then they should be released but if there is more counts then they should stay
@B3G3G6R1wk1W
I think if it was a justified decision yes but if it was a hate crime or just a murder for murder no
@B3DVJ2F2wks2W
Yes but only after 20-50 years and are on parole 24/7 and have gone through strict psychological evaluation and do community service and are no longer a threat to society
@B3C7QLS2wks2W
I feel like no, because if there's not other reasons why or if he didn't have anymore crimes he should get 8years and a 6 month probation
@B3C7LQR2wks2W
I think it depends if the prisoners genuinely have something wrong with them, but if they’ve shown that they have changed their ways, then I do agree with letting them be eligible for parole after 15 years
@B39YWBH2wks2W
No, the family of the victim has to live with the consequences of the murder's actions for the rest of their lives, why shouldn't the murderer?
@B39J9Q92wks2W
Psychological analysis should be considered to determine rehabilitation is possible for possible parole
@B38KNQ6New Democratic2wks2W
Yes, but only after a strict psychological evaluation has been performed showing they’re no longer a threat to society and they’ve showed interest in rehabilitation
@B36LMM72wks2W
If a life sentence has no chance of being liberated. Execute that prisoner. Do that until crime rates lower. If they raise, implement that measurement again
@B367BY43wks3W
depends on what case is being discussed. If one man kills a pedophile because that person sexually assaulted one of his children, then I don't think he is necessarily a threat to society to begin with. In other more general cases the answer is that a prisoner shouldn't be let out of jail, rather they should show that they are being rehabilitated into society and be gradually given more freedom until they are fully reintegrated.
@B32RJJ43wks3W
Depends on why they killed the person, self defense, if they killed the person because were a rapist or pedo LET THEM FREEE
@B32PVGZNew Democratic3wks3W
Should not be an automatic law! Should provide more mental health and rehabilitation programs, should be considered on case by case basis after in-depth psychological assessment!
@B322S5D3wks3W
No prisoners should not be allowed parole after 15 years it should be decided when they get they're sentence..
@B322MFJ3wks3W
yes, depending on the violence of the crime, prisoners should be eligible for a parole hearing after 15 years unless the crime is repulsive then they should not get a chance.
Depends on how many crimes were committed beforehand and if they have a psychological evaluation that shows they are not a threat to society
@B2ZC6HQ4wks4W
Yes, but it also depends on why they killed the person. If they killed someone out of jealousy or something like that then no but if they killed a rapist or a sex offender or something then yes.
@B2YX78G4wks4W
it would depend on the story. I believe everyone deserves to get a chance to be heard but I know some people would use it to their advantage to manipulate and get out of their murderous deed.
@B2Y2J6B4wks4W
Depends on the case and circumstances, and only after a strict psychological evaluation and rehabilitation
@B2XHWX24wks4W
It depends on the crime and the situation. Regardless, I think rehabilitation should be prioritized.
@B2X89N24wks4W
Yes, because if they are there for 15 years or longer an didn't do anything wrong in jail, and know what they have done and give a good parole hearing.
@B2X863R4wks4W
Yes as long as vicim impact, quality of life for the survivors is taken into account. This in addition to strict psychological evaluation, remorse and restitution
@B2WXCVS4wks4W
It depends on their activity and behavior while in prison as well as more should be focused on trying to prove if they truly are guilt and deserve to be there.
@B2WRHY44wks4W
I think for some people they should be allowed a parole hearing and I think so others they should not be allowed a hearing at all. I think it really depends on the case.
@B2VR8MG1mo1MO
This is context dependednt. people with good reasons for the first degree murdur yes but people without a good reason no
@B2VNVNW1mo1MO
Yes and we should provide effective evidence based rehabilitation programs and strict psychological evaluation with continuous monitoring of varying degrees once released
@B2VF4BF1mo1MO
Yes, and we should provide more rehabilitation programs prisoners and a psychological evaluation that shows they are no longer a threat to society
@B2TGBTY1mo1MO
If we for sure and for certain that that person is guilty, they should still be given psychological evaluations but i don’t know if they should be given a parole hearing….
@B2RKXN3 1mo1MO
I think it depends on the reason for the murder. If the reason for the murder was based on something like abuse, I think the parole hearing should happen earlier
@B2RK7N61mo1MO
I'm gonna have to say no as they are not only a danger to the public, but a danger to themselves.However if they have been falsely accused and charged with actual evidence that they did not commit the murder, then they should first be put in some kind of therapy to make sure they are okay.
@B2RDWBZ1mo1MO
It should be at least 25 years before eligibility of a parole hearing. There should be a strict mental evaluation and they should be under supervision for an additional 3-5 years. Murderers must pay a large price for their actions, it should not be easy for them to be free.
@B2QZKY21mo1MO
If a offender, once served time in prison should go out into the world and reoffend with murder, thats where the death penalty should come in.
@B2QNMXZ1mo1MO
Yes - And we should provide more rehabilitation programs for prisoners + provided a strict psychological evaluation shows they are no longer a threat to society + on going follow-ups are done once they've reintered society + should be discussed with victim's family + restorative justice options should be provided if victim's family wishes to take part of a restorative process with the offender.
@B2NXY75New Democratic1mo1MO
Heavily dependent on circumstance, elegibility for a parole hearing should be left to the discresion of the sentencing party (typically the judge) with a recommended minimum of 10 years.
@B2N8YSS1mo1MO
Yes and no. Provide a strict psychological evaluation shows they are no longer a threat society but increase the prison time to 20+ years. It's first degree murder, they thought it out and went through with it.
@B2M64B31mo1MO
Yes, inscread the amount of time to 20 or more years, and provide a strict psychological evaluation shows they are no longer a threat to society
@B2L42TM1mo1MO
No, if we don’t want to reinstate the death penalty for heinous crimes we should require that sentences are served in its entirety
@B2KDYL51mo1MO
I think it depends on the circumstances of the murder. There should also be more rehabilitation programs for prisoners
@B2JHJYM2mos2MO
Yes, if it’s there only criminal offence and put though a strict psychological evaluation which shows they aren’t a threat in society, along with making a plan for their future and make up for their past.
@B2J775M2mos2MO
The entire Legal System should be overhauled.
First, better training for police and detectives. Second, Medical Professionals, and Social and Community Programs should work with the police to ensure public safety, but also the safety of the individual. Third, random mandatory economic, physical & psychological reviews, to ensure they are not at risk of becoming dirty for anyone involved in the 'case' including judges, lawyers, cops, and medical personnel.
There are too many instances where the poor, and uneducated, lose when having a bad lawyer appointed to them.
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@B2GVVDG2mos2MO
It depends on their history, childhood, why they committed the act in the first place. All prisoners should have better rehabilitation programs depending on their circumstance and psychological evaluations.
@B2FB2YC2mos2MO
if the person being killed was a child molester, a rapist, or anything of a bad nature then they deserve parole but if they killed an innocent person then they deserve life
@B2DKNYM2mos2MO
It depends on the situation or case, including the consideration of mental health, poor investigation, long-term responsibility, and many other factors.
@B2D956L2mos2MO
They should just be let go free, they did it for a reason and if they didn't it was a mistake and if they did it for a reason it was a good one.
@B2B3DPJNew Democratic2mos2MO
I believe there should first a strict psychological evaluation, as well as more rehabilitation programs
@B29X3K92mos2MO
No. And reinstate the death penalty for horrendous premeditated crimes. They took someone's life. It should be at the cost of their own wasting away.
@B29G8X72mos2MO
It depends on what there in for murder on. If it’s a child I believe they should get the death penalty If it’s an adult and adult I believe they should go to trial and have programs for them
@B29DRJC2mos2MO
Yes, provided that a strict phycological evaluation shows that they are no longer a threat to society. However any heinous, premeditated crimes such as a planned murder or sexual abuse.
No exemptions for those Including but not limited to minors and the mentally ill in the case of premeditated crimes.
@B29BM442mos2MO
No, if you take a life you should be in prison for the rest of yours. I also think they need to change the prison system for more rehabilitation
@B299V9W2mos2MO
if their mental illness was the cause and its been fixed or strong proof of resolution yes. We should not punish the mentally ill but instead help them heal.
@B25NRZW3mos3MO
It all depends on the nature of the crime (murder -- was it single or multiple, in a fit of passion, retaliatory for violent physical abuse) and how well the prisoner has been rehabilitated.
@B24HPT43mos3MO
the person who commits the crime should serve the time, they took someones live that they cant get back
@B23ZSFH3mos3MO
It depends on if the crime was towards random citizens, or one specific act of retaliation, knowing the crime will not be repeated if released,
@9ZZFG543mos3MO
If the individual has served at least 15 years of their confinement and is over the age of 65 and has been shown to be of no risk to society.
@9ZZCS473mos3MO
Depending on the circumstances, however, a prisoner committing first-degree murder should not get a second chance for something so unnecessary and awful
@9ZYCJ5N3mos3MO
I would say it depends on why they killed the person. If the reason behind the murder is justified, then yes.
It depends why the murder was happened, if it was from a point of abuse or needing to escape a hamrful environment.
@9ZXDXJQ3mos3MO
I think they should be provided a strict psychological evaluation shows they are no longer a threat to society and be closely watched the first year out of jail.
@9ZQKVCF4mos4MO
If they have shown to change or feel remorse/guilt, with a strict psychological evaluation proving they are no longer a threat to society they should be eligible. Thought process should be considered; Did they murder for benefit? Were they tasked to do this? Is this something they wanted?
@9ZKKRXN4mos4MO
We should provided more rehabilitation, but those who commit heinous premeditated crimes such as 1st degree murder should need to serve their time fully.
@9ZKJKHW4mos4MO
I think if they show no threats and are sorry for what they did and can be helped with a service like counseling everything 2 days a week and still being Monterey for awhile until proven nothing is bad that they've done
I think the death penalty should be given to certain people who've committed heinous acts, but a psychological evaluation wouldn't hurt either.
@9ZHQY5B4mos4MO
Depending on the degree of murder they may or may not be allowed parole. 1st degree: absolute not. 2nd, 3rd: depending on the severity and the brutality of the crime. Manslaughter: Yes
@9YKHL3B4mos4MO
No, they shouldn’t be allowed to get parole the damages they have done has already happened and can’t be taken back instead they should live out their lives in prison and wait for what judgement lies in death
@9YGJXM9Conservative4mos4MO
If they pass a strict psychological evaluation that shows they are no longer s threat to society, sure. However they should be monitored on a scheduled basis to see if everything is fine. However, for thise who commit specific heinous premediated crimes, the death penalty should be invoked.
@9XLYR9R4mos4MO
Yes, if the murder was an act of self defence against someone or these was an abuse situation going on
@9XCL7LD4mos4MO
I think there should always be hearings much later in case an individual was wrongfully accused, however I don't any rehabilitation measures should be allowed - it doesn't work; criminals should be properly punished.
@9X93HJQ4mos4MO
if they were doing it since the person that that murdered killed someone they love they probably wont do it again so they should get parole but if it was a drunk driving murder they no theh shouldnt
@9X5SC254mos4MO
I think if you kill some one who was a child molester or rapist or a murder them selves you saved more lives then you took and deserve to go free
@9X4QKMV4mos4MO
i believe if there was a reason why they killed someone then that should be a conversation. but generally no someone who ended someone’s life should never be free just like the person they killed.
@9WYDMSD4mos4MO
If the person who was murdered deserved it, most definitely. those who murder in cold blood because they are psychopaths who want to hurt and kill innocent people for their own gratification should be given the death penatly.
@9WBH4S75mos5MO
I think if a life sentence in Canada is only 25 years. Then re evaluate then. Then they can atemp a hearing to see if they should be back in society
@9W9M54X5mos5MO
The motivation behind the crime needs to be considered heavily before and the prisoner should be given therapy while in prison before entering the rehabilitation stage, if they do chose to apply for it
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