AI in defense refers to the use of artificial intelligence technologies to enhance military capabilities, such as autonomous drones, cyber defense, and strategic decision-making. Proponents argue that AI can significantly enhance military effectiveness, provide strategic advantages, and improve national security. Opponents argue that AI poses ethical risks, potential loss of human control, and can lead to unintended consequences in critical situations.
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No
@9VFDL8Q2mos2MO
Ai is too heavily relied on in current day history. I feel that if Ai was to turn sentient and turn on us, we would have no counter to them, ultimately rendering us useless to the enemy, and being wiped out. Now, if they were to gain power to our defense weapons, like missiles, transport and nuclear arsenal, they could make the whole world turn on us, or we could be blown off the face of the earth.
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Yes
@9VFDL8Q2mos2MO
Watch Terminator series, Avengers age of ultron, I have no mouth but I must scream, Irobot, and literally every other movie where the Ai turns sentient and turns into the humans.
@9MW6R3Z 6mos6MO
The development general AI is an existential threat to humanity. If we do not regulate AI early the risk of this threat becoming reality increases. If General AI is not regulated where its parameters prevents violence. There is no telling what it will do or what it is capable of.
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Do you think letting machines make life-and-death decisions in military conflicts is a necessary step forward or does it cross an ethical line?
@9VNPZW2 1mo1MO
I believe it crosses an ethical line definitely.
To me it makes sense for humans to have to make the decision when it comes to the killing and destruction of other humans.
Due to things such as; Empathy, Morality, and Emotion.
Things an Artificial Intelligence does not have.
Granted, things like that could be PROGRAMMED into the A.I, but the A.I will never be able to come up with such things itself, and eventually, due to flaws in programming/a loophole the designers did not see, a catastrophe could pretty easily happen.
Yeah. I think it crosses an ethical line.
A.I has no personal way to tell when to stop. Only that it needs to get from point A to point B.
And who knows what it might do to get there?.
@9VMX3HH1mo1MO
i don`t think we should be using machines to make decisions.
@9VGX7TCConservative2mos2MO
It is not an ethical line of defense or decisions.
@9VFTSSS2mos2MO
I believe it crosses an ethical line because its not realistic
@9ZDCX9T2wks2W
Yes, But only if the AI is used for information and detecting enemy attacks, it cannot initiate attacks/counter-attacks.
@9ZD7HCG2wks2W
Yes, but not to the extent of the private market bubble, and only when technology has been heavily tested and found to be reliable should it be put to use
@9YKVWYHNew Democratic2wks2W
AI is difficult because its a new thing. It can be used for good and bad, so Its a case-by-case basis.
@9YDGG9X2wks2W
I don't believe artificial intelligence is a safe creation and will eventually take over all jobs, and society as a whole
@9WQ5HHK4wks4W
It depends, if ai is being used to check if someone is who they say they are then no, however if it is being used to keep servers protected then yes
@9W9M54X1mo1MO
Yes but until AI becomes more advanced it should not be the biggest priority nor should we rely on it too heavily if it does reach that level of advancement.
@9W6MXFY1mo1MO
No, at the end of the day AI can have false positives and needs to be constantly kept maintained by humans so might as well just use humans.
@9W5TSDN1mo1MO
Some support investing in AI for defense to enhance national security and efficiency, while others express concerns about ethical implications, potential misuse, and the risks of autonomous weaponry.
@9W45G3Y1mo1MO
it depends but overall we should be using this as people not for defensive purposes, ai should only be used for learning
@9W2W4QN1mo1MO
On one hand Canada will have to stay relevant with other countries however this could lead to an abuse of power. I am undecided at this time as do not understand enough about AI.
@9VWVZQB1mo1MO
Yes, but should not be replacing any jobs. It should be a research tool opposed to a replacement to human input. It's not powerful enough yet in my eyes
@9VSPPZL1mo1MO
i believe that if the government were to invest in (ai) they should add restrictions and be extremely cautious and at some point take hypothetical scenarios into account. but overall (ai) should be used for everything in term of research and methods on how to possibly do things such as agriculture and environmental safety.
@9VMWZRK1mo1MO
Artificial Intelligence Should be abolished as it is dangerous and can be easily manipulated, human intelligence is superior. .
@9VMJ4571mo1MO
Only if not doing so poses a threat to national security -- and not for any other purpose besides national security
@9VCJBMD2mos2MO
Yes, but only so we don't get far behind in military technology. And as long as it can be overridden easily.
@9V9JVX32mos2MO
I believe it should be utilized, and maintained by the proper people of power, and be used for good against humanity. For example: in wars to be used against certain gases, and more.
@9V9BQ4C2mos2MO
There are good and bad qualities to artificial intelligence so it all depends on the applications of the AI and where the spending goes towards it.
@9TZKMBH2mos2MO
Other countries may use it, but it is certainly a scary idea, and I wouldn't want to be without it if they attack us with it, so yes and no.
@9TZHZWZ2mos2MO
Artificial Intelligence is good to invest in, unless it is used to protect us. I trust real people with morals rather than a robot with my safety and security.
@9TY279W2mos2MO
Yes, as long as the systems are tested on a regular basis to lessen mechanical error as much as possible. Also, don't set up the mostly deadly mechanisms, for example, nuclear missiles.
@9TWK4RLConservative2mos2MO
Defense applications in the sense of the Canadian military being able to use it to identify threats from foreign countries yes.
yes but they need to understand that AI cannot be used for every single defense. we still need to make our own solutions but i can see how AI can assist to improve defense plans
@9TPFV662mos2MO
it would advance our technology and we can use it for defense, but i feel like they are gaining way too much power
@9TP8MJS2mos2MO
Yes and no because if this investment is opened to the public then everywhere we go would be ai and a lot of people will use it for unnecessary preposes.
AI is not that competent in that field as of now so it might not be the best now but they could start somewhere
@9VKMP3G2mos2MO
at the current stage of AI development that would lead to more harm than good, however in the future once the technology is more developed that could be beneficial.
@9VJLT3Z2mos2MO
It is inevitable that they will do this, but they should setup an AI ethics commission for general use of AI and be very careful in their usage of AI. It is a Pandora's box.
@9VDRGX42mos2MO
no the government should work on developing the humans brain instead of creating (AI) for defense applications.
@9TMG6DR2mos2MO
I don't have anything against AI, but AI could lead to problems like identity fraud and other major problems.
@9TKHGCV2mos2MO
Hoping we all watched Terminator, we need to implement immense security and strict control measures if we do invest in AI defense. So yes, we should invest in AI defense, but keep a strict fist clenched over it.
@9TJX5972mos2MO
Yes, provided it is under constant review by a third party government agency of bipartisans overseeing this.
@9T9Y95Z2mos2MO
yes but it should be limited and the ai should have a killswitch along with it being overseen by a human.
@9NLQQF36mos6MO
like, from a realist perspective or is this about my ideology?
@9NGY3VK6mos6MO
I'm extremely iffy on it since I've seen and read too much horror stories about AI defenses. Try reading "I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream" and answer yes with confidence, I dare you
@9NC8GVS6mos6MO
Yes, but only if we can be sure that it isn't going to be used against the people.
@9MV4GBF6mos6MO
I think they should invest in it for certain uses like enemy detection software but if it can shoot on its own without a human there, I think it should be banned
@9MT6HBBNew Democratic6mos6MO
should only be for military use and not on civilians
@9MSLPDY6mos6MO
I prefer to keep a neutral position in politics after.
depends on how serious the situation, and if the AI has been carefully tested and works properly
@9MNG73Z6mos6MO
it should be used as application with limited use not at excess still decision should depend on human intelligence and Human control
@9MKVW9V6mos6MO
No, geopolitics is complex and cannot be calculated.
@9MKBK8SConservative6mos6MO
AI can be used for things such intelligence gathering or tactal purposes. However, any weapon systems should be human controlled.
@9T43Q5N3mos3MO
Yes and No, using AI to enhance military capabilities should be to some extent. Giving full control could be a risk for dangerous situations.
@9T3TX4DNew Democratic3mos3MO
It really depends on how AI evolves. I get that it could (in some cases) give a second opinion if the military were making plans or decisions, however, it also takes time and knowledge to figure out the logistics of the AI generated opinion. If it is able to give proper answers and opinions with thorough explanations behind them, then maybe then the government could invest in AI.
@9SZHZL33mos3MO
Yes, but to the extent that it is thoroughly monitored and used minimally with human evaluation of AI decisions
@9SVW64D3mos3MO
Yes but again make sure it’s well controlled, understood and not entirely dependent on AI and that there is a way to overrule an ai command.
@9SMKCNKIndependent3mos3MO
Should invest in AI technologies but great vigilance and with concrete details and barriers that make sure that nothing goes out of hands.
Other militaries will still invest in this tech, no matter how abhorrent it is to think about an AI manned gun.
@9RCHXWB4mos4MO
gov't should invest in regulating AI and in diplomacy initiatives around the ethical implications of AI before any tech gets applied practically.
@9RCBSYB4mos4MO
Semi-autonomous drones would be acceptable, i.e., no serious action without human approval. Cyber defense in order to provide warnings, alerts, blocking and locking out to wait for human action would be acceptable. Decision-making should be left to humans but AI can provide all relevant information so as to allow for a well informed decision. Humans should retain control in all cases.
@9RBXRKD4mos4MO
Yes because other countries will and do. However there should always be human oversight to major decisions
@9RBVWZ94mos4MO
Yes but decision making should be left to humans and all source material should be triple checked for veracity.
@9RBT38T4mos4MO
Yes, only because other governments will not hesitate to do so, we need to keep pace with the world.
@9QSV5BH5mos5MO
Depends on the AI, and how reliable it is, either way, I think we should have real people behind the AI just in case something fishy gets through the AI's defense.
@9QSSKF45mos5MO
Yes, but make sure that the AI is used as a tool and not as an excuse to hide behind your own deteriorating morals
@9QS7YM65mos5MO
I think they have to be very careful when analyzing risk versus reward. I'm unsure if it's a good idea at this point.
@9P8NRFMNew Democratic 5mos5MO
Artificial Intelligence in its current state, is not true AI as it cannot make its own decisions and reasoning in an independent or unbiased manner. Current AI models heavily rely on information which is/was produced by various human scholars- of whom are experts in their qualified field(s) . Therefore, AI is not an appropriate way to validate/officiate defence applications.
It could be good. But can be used against the Government by a kid in his Moms basement.
@9NQ42RX6mos6MO
no, the use of AI is not something we should popularize, especially in the case of government use and national safety
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